Pepper&Carrot is now on Liberapay


Liberapay is a recurrent donations platform founded in 2015 by Changaco and Zatalyz under a non-profit organization. The mission of Liberapay is to propose a service where you can patron projects or individuals who contribute to the commons and make things that benefits everyone. Liberapay does not take a cut of payments, the service is funded by the donations to its own account. In a nutshell and with too many shortcuts and simplifications: it's "an open-source Patreon". The project is young, fresh, full of good energy and built around a good ethic: I can see this platform become the ideal place to manage a single wallet and fund many Free/Libre and Open-source projects with micro-donations. It just needs more profile pages of open-source projects in my opinion. That's why It was evident to me to create a profile and propose it to you as an additional alternative to patron Pepper&Carrot.

Donate to Pepper&Carrot on Liberapay here: 

12 comments

link   Jorge   , - Reply

Great move! The other day I was thinking about this and wanted to ask you whether you had considered free/libre alternatives to Patreon. You almost read my mind!

link   Irina   , - Reply

The only disadvantage is that you won't know who we are; everybody who transfers their donation from Patreon to Liberapay will disappear from your sight. Do they at least tell you how many donors you have so you can put the number in the donors list?

link   David Revoy   Author , - Reply

Yes, that's right. I agree; It's a pretty big disadvantage for building the credit list. That's why I still prefer to focus on Patreon for the main platform. Liberapay is an alternative for the category "hidden fairies " on Patreon who already wants to be anonymous. I probably could explain it better.

link   kronos   , - Reply

I like to be a hidden fairy. It suits to P&C very well :) I avoided Patreon because of the tax I had to pay. Now it is only a transfer fee and as I figured out, paying by card is cheaper than regular bank transfer for me :O We are in EU and still... so huge bank transfer fee.

link   David Revoy   Author , - Reply

Thank you for your support Kronos!

link   Martin Sobers   , - Reply

Thanks a lot for sharing the info

link   jio mobile   , - Reply

Liberapay is an alternative for the category "hidden fairies " on Patreon who already wants to be anonymous. I probably could explain it better.

link   David Revoy   Author , - Reply

True! Thanks for the information.

link   milou   , - Reply

Liberapay is probably not anonymous since it’s on Cloudflare. Freedom is therefore very relative.

link   libre fan   , - Reply

milou, you’ve got an excellent point there :D . I brought up the subject of Cloudflare with the Liberapay team, and their answer was: "Cloudflare is free ( which means, free as in free beer, not as in Freedom) and easy". To me this is unacceptable, and I know Pepper would agree with us: see Episode 23 https://www.peppercarrot.com/en/article … e-a-chance

The other reason would be that a web site or a service hosted on Cloudflare is protected from DoS attacks. Yet, the gratis version of Cloudflare hosting is likely to be defenseless against any attack.

The good thing about Liberapay is they made Cloudflare accept Tor Browser visitors on Liberapay without any damned Google Captcha. So maybe using Tor Browser you may be able to be free from the spying, if you can use some kind of anonymous payment, that is.

The problem is Cloudflare is still not considered as part of the GAFAM gang by most people who are, however, quite aware of the damages caused to all of us and our democracies by the GAFAM villains.

link   libre fan   , - Reply

Well, I went to have a look at Liberapay again. It seems they’re not longer on Cloudflare but are hosted by Amazon, that takes the biscuit :very sad indeed:
https://liberapay.com/about/legal
This website is hosted on AWS (Ireland) by:

Amazon Web Services, Inc.
P.O. Box 81226
Seattle, WA 98108-1226
USA

Amazon Data Services Ireland Ltd
Burlington Plaza, Burlington Road
Dublin 4
Ireland

So Amazon is part of the GAFAM gang and, as such, does tax evasion on the large scale, and exploit both their employees and their clients.

So Liberapay associated with such dodgy business, is that a joke???

link   libre fan   , - Reply

Sorry to come back here once again, I look like a troll or a spammer, but:

dig NS liberapay.com outputs this:

liberapay.com. 32584 IN NS meg.ns.cloudflare.com.
liberapay.com. 32584 IN NS lakas.ns.cloudflare.com.

So Liberapay uses both Cloudflare and Amazon Cloud.
This is very sad for such a great project.

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